that was a romney plan. he could absorb that. there's groundwork to be laid for him to say, look, this is how much i need in revenues. i don't care how we get there. that's a natural opening. so i guess my answer, john, i'm just not sure how much of that brinksmanship he wants to play. but i think what is certain is that he wants to very early define the terms of this debate, make it very public and say, this is the framework that is reasonable. this is what i'm putting forward, and not get into a situation where he then, after it fails, says, well, this is what i proposed, and let me leak all these documents. this is where we were. i think they want to be done with that and be very up front what they're prepared to do. >> what were you mumbling? >> he's always muttering one thing or the other. >> he cannot say, this is the number i need. you guys get there. he's got to, as jeffrey said, he's got to put out the framework himself. and remember, raising the top 2% doesn't get us where we need to go in revenue. we've got to do somet